- It’s a good size at 6x9: compact enough for regular use and travel, but not too small as to be unreadable. The only notes are the minimal ESV translators notes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp37KfaRoI4. The text is not large. 5:14 – “For the whole law is fulfilled in one word. In reflection on St. Augustine’s experience, we have named this Catholic edition of the Bible The Augustine Bible—thus affirming that we too can turn our hearts to the Lord every time we “take and read” God’s Word. Augustine is widely considered to be one of the most influential theologians of all time and stands as a giant among giants in the history of the Christian faith. It comes in a rigid … Where can I purchase a copy of The Augustine Bible in the UK? It’s great for carrying around. This is the name used to denote old Latin translations from the Greek text, which were used in the Western world before - very slowly - what would be called the Vulgate translation by St Jerome took precedence. It’s a simple, minimalist Bible with decent build quality and a fair price. ), previous post announcing the Augustine Bible, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp37KfaRoI4, A Brief Comparison of the ESV w/Apocrypha and the ESVCE – Catholic Bible Talk, https://m.ncregister.com/daily-news/augustine-institute-publishes-major-new-catholic-bible, Review: Ignatius Pew Missal | The Catholic Man Reviews, First Look: Large Print New Catholic Bible (NCB) — Guest Post by Leighton. The ESV nails it. A lot of Bibles get printed with very narrow margins because they’re trying to save space and save money and just be efficient. If this is the new permanent price, I would be a bit upset if I purchased it at $50. So below I will call out some of the positives and negatives I have discovered. In reflection on St. Augustine’s experience, we have named this Catholic edition of the Bible The Augustine Bible—thus affirming that we too can turn our hearts to the Lord every time we “take and read” God’s Word. This one will only bother Catholics, but it’s not actually a bad translation. I find the ghosting to be somewhat distracting; it’s bad especially in the poetic texts, and I think it generally makes the type look soft or almost blurry (but if you look at a page with no text on the back, it is evident that the type is clear). Soon Augustine finds himself in an important position as “The Voice of The Emperor,” with the life of luxury he’s always wanted. Most of these are not a big deal, but they’re worth noting. Most pages in the Bible look like this – simple and uncluttered. So, a well done paperback can last. Overall, I share the sentiments above. And with the WOF version coming this summer, I hope neither is too expensive. SUBSCRIBE now for updates! I found Gerald Bray's review or analysis or commentary on Augustine to be helpful and edifying if somewhat long in parts. Therefore I would recommend sticking with the RSV while of course also referring to the Douay-Rheims which has a special place in my heart as it was the first Bible my parents bought me and I believe it is good to get a feel for the Latin Patrimony of the Church. (Note also that in this example another dual numbering system used as the deuterocanonical material flows into the protocanonical Aramaic-to-Hebrew transition). FYI – the price has dropped to $29.95 on their store. Still one would expect a hardcover for a Bible at the price. Hi Marc: just came across this article. I emailed the Augustine Institute inquiring into when they’ll be releasing a hardcover edition. Though the Augustine Institute I agree needs to make a Hard Cover. However (and oddly), although it might seem to aid Catholic apologists arguing for confession to a priest, no modern Catholic Bible translates it that way! Read honest and unbiased product reviews from our users. Augustine first summarizes the central message of the Bible (quite an astounding and beautiful accomplishment) and then turns to the difficult medium of the message. Printed in Italy, The Augustine Bible features the English Standard Version® Catholic Edition translation, which some consider to be the best available English translation of the Bible. There are minimal notes, all of the transnational as far as I can tell. A negative scholarly assessment of the ESV can be found HERE. First, this is the wrong question to ask! Looks like there will be other editions of the Augustine Bible coming out later this year: I’m truly happy for those who have wanted an ESVCE, but that price is ridiculous. are both found in the text with a footnote that the passage is not found in some manuscripts. Marc, It was also a nice translation. This has the advantage of keeping the biblical text in focus, the Bible’s size (and cost) manageable, and avoids the risk of biasing the reader to one position or another. I want to show how the text is typeset, how the (minimal, translational)  footnotes look, and what “extras” are included. The Great Adventure Catholic Bible - Review, Citing the Summa Theologiæ of St. Thomas Aquinas. Printed in Italy, The Augustine Bible features the English Standard Version® Catholic Edition translation, which many consider to be the best available English translation of the Bible. It was with reluctance that I put it on the shelf and began a search for a Catholic (i.e., complete) Bible. The Augustine Bible features a beautiful foil-stamped slipcase and a durable matte cover to ensure that you can use and treasure this Bible for years to come. Many publishers place a layer of glue along the spine of a sewn binding for extra durability and stability, but the presence of glue along the spine does not indicate whether a binding is sewn or not. The Augustine Bible features a beautiful foil-stamped slipcase and a durable matte cover to ensure that you can use and treasure this Bible for years to come. This is a very unfortunate translation which essentially reverses the meaning of the text. I can say with certainty that it is sewn. Thanks for the clarity. 17:21 below). As noted in the previous post announcing the Augustine Bible, this is a paperback edition in a hard slip case. To be fair, the definite article (English “the”) is not in the text here, and Greek does not have an indefinite article so it’s not technically wrong to add it in when helpful (cult apologists will recognize this as the same argument Jehovah’s Witnesses use for calling Jesus “a god” in John 1:1). The slip case and the paperback cover have a gold-colored foil pattern stamped on the front, as shown below. I spent a lot of time considering Bibles and wrote an article on it HERE. When the empire decides to take over the Christian basilica, Augustine prepares to give the speech of a lifetime, one that will slow the rising tide of Christianity’s influence. It makes it look like part of the curse of original sin is for wives to be in disagreement with their husbands and for the husband to [over]rule them. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. – had until they started getting removed by publishers in the late 19th Century). The divorce “exception clause” in Matthew 19:9 is a difficult passage on any account, but the meaning of the underlying Greek term porneia is not – it means sexual immorality. I criticized the Great Adventure Bible for not offering a sewn binding at its price point, but every other aspect of its production quality is excellent. The stack of pages is simply glued together with a strip of glue on one edge. In most cases, I still find the text to be easily readable, but in some areas, especially in the narrative sections with less white space, I find the ghosting to be more frustrating. Amazon.ae: The Augustine Bible (ESV-CE): Augustine Institute. Update: It’s possible to confirm this by opening the bible to the exact middle of one of the folded signatures and carefully opening the pages as far as they will go near the spine. He gives advice on how to gain the necessary factual and linguistic information to approach the biblical environment and how to deal with its often so strangely figurative and obscure style of expression. While it would not make for a good heirloom or study Bible, it makes a great reader. The Augustine Institute has a tendency to release projects at a high price and then lower prices. Now, although the RSV is a kind of a universal academic standard, it is a 70 year-old translation that retains archaic formal English (e.g., “Thees and Thous”) and doesn’t read as smoothly as I would like in some places. The thread which was used to sew the signatures together will be visible deep in the groove (sometimes known as the “gutter”) between the pages. I received a reply today and they informed me that one will be released, at the earliest, in 2021. (In case you’re wondering, it has received both the nihil obstat and imprimatur from the Conference of Catholic Bishops of India). The Augustine Bible uses the term “Deuterocanonical Books.” - The cover artwork is beautiful. I stand firmly against this edition, though, as the price point is ridiculous. I think that the translation over all is good and acceptable, yet after closer consideration I believe that the RSV-2CE remains at least generally a better pick as a study bible and boasts a very similar readability. The Augustine Bible features a beautiful foil-stamped slipcase and a durable matte cover to ensure that you can use and treasure this Bible for years to come. As I was opening this article, I was lamenting that there are so few Catholic bibles with sufficient margin space. I remain puzzled by their choice to release a paperback at such a high starting price. For those who aren’t familiar Dover used to publish high quality paperback of older books. I like that it is compact. First, the ESV makes the divine-messianic connection much more clear in this Psalm by adressing God and not his throne (cf. I was informed that if I felt the price point was not such to be warranted in regard to the text, I should consider “shopping around” for a lower price. Granted, the RSV is also not free from this though it seems to be less apparent in major moments of the text and rather occurs in less notable sections. Having said that, there are a lot of advantages with the ESV translation for any Christian, and for Catholics some are especially welcome. other than the Douay-Rheims, you pretty much won’t find any Bible that say it the way Catholics pray it. Many thanks to the readers who commented with their first impressions of the brand new Augustine Bible ESV-CE over the past two weeks. Christian theologians and apologists will be glad to see that in the ESV Isaiah 7:14 reads, “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son.”. On the plus side, the binding is definitely sewn, as advertised in the product announcement. I actually just received my copy of the Augustine institute ESV-CE. For me, the positive features of the ESV translation far outweigh its deficiencies, but it is helpful to get a taste for both. The Augustine Bible uses the term “Deuterocanonical Books.” - The cover artwork is beautiful. Click to email this to a friend (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), the Bishops of India approved a Catholic edition of the ESV, proof-texting is often such a poor apologetic practice, The Great Adventure Catholic Bible – Review. The Augustine Bible comes in a sturdy slip box that matches the Bible’s cover – which is a stiff cardboard fold-over. The text says what it says and people are expected to understand when the terms refer to a broader group. The Augustine Bible comes in a sturdy slip box that matches the Bible’s cover – which is a stiff cardboard fold-over. I found chapters 1, 2 and 4 to be the most engaging but got a little lost or overwhelmed or simply bored in the central chapter on Augustine the Teacher. As I was making my way into full communion with the Catholic Church I was also discovering the English Standard Version (ESV) study Bible which, although it was put out by Reformed scholars, had great notes. It also is a reasonable reader’s bible for anyone who does not like explanatory notes and introductions (although the moderate ghosting might frustrate some readers). - The inside layout is very clean and readable. Learn how your comment data is processed. Looking at the sleeve I honestly thought I was getting a cloth covered hardback….. Not to happy about this being a paperback…. My Review of The Augustine Bible ESV-CE. There’s a New Catholic Answers Speaker In Town! All is not perfect with the ESV. I have paperbacks published by Dover that have lasted 30 and 40 years, though not with daily use. I leave the response to speak for itself. - YouTube There are several mentions of the font size being too small on the publisher’s website. The NABRE’s “translation” is completely unwarranted (it is an interpretative paraphrase rather than a translation). So much for that! Deuterocanonical material included in protocanonical books is difficult to versify due to different systems which have developed over the years. 1:8). The paper is pretty thin, but not terrible. (Yet another reason why proof-texting is often such a poor apologetic practice). I received a rather disappointing reply. As it turns out, I didn’t have long to wait. (Details are given in the ESV front matter itself.). It seems that the ESV takes a number of liberties in translating certain passages in Genesis and also others which I find to be a frustration due to their use of inclusive language which distracts from the true meaning of the text. The pericope found in John 7:53-8:11 (The Woman Caught in Adultery) and the so-called “Longer Ending of Mark” (Mark 16:9-20.) A completely “literal word-for-word” translation is an undesirable pipe dream. The paper is pretty thin, but not terrible. A Bible translation is either faithful to the original writings or it is not – and that is all that matters. There are commentaries, no cross-references, no index, almost no “study helps” of any kind. The bible has no ribbon markers, so this extension of the cover can serve that purpose if needed. Because Greek has known pronouns of gender, these are translated as-is rather than paraphrased simply because “we all know what they really mean.” So for example, the term adelphoi literally means “brothers.” Now, it can refer to more than just male siblings – in fact it can refer to both male and female members of groups that aren’t family-related at all. Last but not least, the ESV does not follow the practice of capitalizing pronouns of deity (those referring to God). “The good person” in Luke 6:45), but to use the gendered English word when the original language word was gendered. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. When I receive a reply, I shall forward it to this group. Deuterocanonicals. The cover design and the slip case are beautifully designed. OK lemme know when. I’ve tried Amazon Uk, not available, Amazon.com do not ship to the Uk. He mostly used what is termed the Vetus Latina , the “Old Latin” version of Biblical texts. On Augustine by Rowan Williams, Augustine by Robin Lane Fox review – the theologian, with and without sex The former archbishop has no time for feminist or ecocriticism of Augustine … Amos 4:6 – “I gave you cleanness of teeth, Mark 1:2 – “Behold, I send my messenger before your face, Gal. The slip case will help to protect the cover when not in use, but it won’t help with normal wear from reading. Review of "The Augustine Bible" - the Catholic ESV! But we want people to live in the Bible. Like pretty much all Bibles, it has some weaknesses. As Jean E. mentioned in the comments, the text is not line-matched. Two-for-One translation improvement here! Overall, the level of ghosting is similar to the HarperOne NRSV Standard Bible — Catholic Edition, and I consider that edition to have too much ghosting for comfort. A reasonably-sized book (circa 300 pages) but in only five chapters? Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Augustine and the Bible (Bible through the Ages Book 2) at Amazon.com. With none of those features available, it’s very hard to justify paying full price for this bible. Select Your Cookie Preferences. This is the first accessible Catholic Bible in the ESV translation. It can sit open on the table unassisted from about the beginning of Exodus through the beginning of 1 Peter. There always has to be a balance between literal and readable, and at times the ESV might have lightened up on the consistent literalism a bit. I eventually settled on the RSV “Catholic Edition” (RSVCE) translation for my study Bible as well as one that was limited to the New Testament. I would not expect the Augustine Bible to resist wear and tear much better. I will be (im)patiently awaiting the leather version (or even the hardcover if it’s sewn). The ESV is actually a revision of the RSV that not only updates about 60,000 words to modern English, the translation is also made from a better manuscript tradition. I’m curious to hear what their response will be! It feels just right in the hand—a bit smaller in form factor than your typical Bible with smallish print throughout. As I have continued to read and use the ESV-CE I began to notice many translation choices…small, yet a bit annoying. Like Luke 1:28 above, some Catholics might get miffed about the ESV’s rendering of “person” into “presence” because it seems to take away from the “persona christi” role of the priest in confession. Although it may seem pious to write “He” instead of merely “he” when referring to God the Father or Jesus, doing so has no analog in the original languages or writings of Scripture. By contrast, a glued binding is generally constructed without grouping the pages into discrete signatures. Visit to Branch Davidian Compound Outside Waco, TX. This is why pages are much more likely to fall out of a glued binding as it ages, compared to a sewn binding. I suspect that heavy criticism played a role in their decision to reduce the price from $50 to $30. Here are some of the goodies. So while preserving the literal accuracy of the RSV, it also restores some of the best of the KJV renderings that the RSV lost. Printed in Italy, The Augustine Bible features the English Standard Version® Catholic Edition translation, which some consider to be the best available English translation of the Bible. All we need to do is to recognize the Scriptures for what they are: a personal message from God, who made us and loves us. I’ve been reading and praying with it since, to give it a chance. A few maps of Israel and St. Paul’s missionary journeys (including his “4th” to Spain) are in the back along with a beautiful 3D map of Jerusalem. This verse’s absence from many modern Bibles catches a lot of people off guard. However, while many Christians are familiar with the broad strokes of his theology, few readers today have explored the riches of his spiritual life. Overall I am happy with The Augustine Bible. Guest Review of the Augustine Institute Hardcover ESV-CE Many thanks to reader Alfredo Watkins, who recently purchased the hardcover edition of the ESV-CE from the Augustine Institute, and generously agreed to share a review on the blog! Highlighting with a marker did bleed through a bit (see the “All we need to do” line above) – but it did not get any worse than this even after several weeks. 2) Comparing the two most recent reviews on this blog, mine focusing on the Bible for Everyone and yours on the ESVCE, I simply can’t get over the fact that the Bible for Everyone is a sewn hardcover, with a ton of maps, a ribbon marker, shipped from the UK, and costs $20 dollars less. I’m a big fan of Jeff Cavins’s fantastic Bible Timeline materials, so I was very excited to learn of Ascension Press’s release of the Great Adventure Catholic Bible which incorporated them into a single volume. However, the definite article is missing for most of the terms in this verse – so why only add it here? Catholics should rejoice that for the first time in 70 years we have a solid, scholarly, faithful, complete Bible translation (and one that is free from misleading notes – BONUS!). (Although this does mean readers have to think a little harder about the Bible’s view of tradition!). Review of The Augustine Bible - the Catholic ESV! It generally received a warm response from Catholics around the world, I however, did not love this bible. Bible Reviews, Bible Study, Translations, and more. The ESVCE does not do this. Thanks for the overview. That was great, but we couldn’t get it in the USA. The books of the Old Testament are placed in the traditional order with the deuterocanonicals kept in their proper genre. Still, it’s unusual to release a paperback first with no higher-quality option. Now this one is a real issue on both the translational and theological fronts. I’ve requested a reason, from Augustine Institute, to justify the price point. Heb. The ESV-Catholic Edition emphasizes “word-for-word” accuracy, literary excellence, and depth of meaning. This is far less confusing to those expecting these verses to be there than to simply leave them out (e.g., Mt. While it’s not too much of an eye strain for me initially, this would not be me “desert island” Bible. I ordered this bible when I saw that it was available (cyber week deal for preorder) as I have been waiting for a version in the United States. - It’s a good size at 6x9: compact enough for regular use and travel, but not too small as to be unreadable. The Augustine Bible features a beautiful foil-stamped slipcase and a durable matte cover to ensure that you can use and treasure this Bible for years to come. That is excellent news! I agree, with the possible exception of the binding. The Augustine Bible, ESV Catholic Edition The Augustine Bible features a beautiful foil-stamped slipcase and a durable matte cover to ensure that you can use and treasure this Bible for years to come. I also took a standard yellow highlighter to it to see about bleed-through. It contains a short Foreward, a Preface, a few grayscale maps and a chart of weights and measures. “We will have other versions of The Augustine Bible coming out in the fall. A positive scholarly assessment of the ESV can be found HERE. It seems to be, from the photo supplied, that the binding is glued. We want people to use their Bible to study, to pray, to read daily.”, https://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/augustine-institute-publishes-major-new-catholic-bible. Not all “inclusive language” is taking a liberty with the text — in some cases the masculine English word is in fact less literal. Once the glue no longer holds onto an individual sheet of paper, it comes loose and falls out. Oxford University Press came out with an ESV that contained the deuterocanonicals (the so-called “apocryphal” books that most Bibles – even the KJV! I also inquired as to when hardback or leather editions are planned for publishing. I was informed that I would need to wait until after the new year has commenced, as the department which has the pricing responsibility is “out of the office”. Catholic Market online charge more for shipping (understandably as its shipped from the US) than the cost of the Bible itself. This bible should hold up to normal use reasonably well, but I would expect it to show its age more than a hardcover or leather edition. Theological bias is not a virtue in translation (example). Catholics take note: this same practice means that adelphoi will be translated as “brothers” in passages speaking of Jesus’ extended family (whether they are actually half-brothers, step-brothers, cousins, or countrymen is a matter of interpretation – not translation.). Second, the ESV numbers the Psalms following the Hebrew Masoretic text like the RSV and most modern Bible translations instead of the Greek Septuagint like the Vulgate / Douay-Rheims. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. However, that does not make it OK to “translate” adelphoi into “people.” The same goes for “father” (vs. “parent”), wife (vs. “spouse”). Many cheaper bibles feature hardcover or imitation leather covers, a ribbon marker, and line-matching. We’ll have a very nice leather version. It’s not perfect, however (none are!). It’s a disputed text so some include it with a note that it isn’t found in some manuscripts but others simply leave it out! Maybe now some people will be interested in purchasing it? ESV’s philosophy is explicitly to use non-gender specific language when translating a word that in Hebrew/Greek is not gendered (e.g. In Isaiah 7:14 the RSV translated Hebrew almah as “young woman” rather than “virgin.” The NABRE followed suit and so, sadly, modern Catholic Bibles confused a lot of people. Printed in Italy, The Augustine Bible features the English Standard Version Catholic Edition translation, which some consider to be the best available English translation of the Bible. I’d like thicker pages, but it is nice to have a 1,200+ page book that I can easily carry with one hand and fit on a normal sized bookshelf. They, then adjust as they learn from people. Share this: Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window) Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window) Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window) Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window) Click to … and the NABRE. The ESV has opted to indicate it’s inclusion with italics and use a dual-numbering system to reflect placement. However, in 2018, the Bishops of India approved a Catholic edition of the ESV! Your email address will not be published. SOURCE: The Catholic Comparative New Testament. The paperback cover is sturdy and thick, and it has a large fold-out extension which could potentially be used to mark a page. The ESV is a pretty straightforward literal translation. I’d like thicker pages, but it is nice to have a 1,200+ page book that I can easily carry with one hand and fit on a normal sized bookshelf. I ordered a copy and have some first impressions and photos to share. Eventually readers of the Bible have to learn how to differentiate between passages meant to be read literally and passages meant to be read figuratively, something that can challenge even the most advanced readers. Yes, it is finally here. I don't love this bible Released at the end of 2019, the Augustine Bible finally brings the ESV Catholic Edition to the United States. The printing is top-notch, ghosting is negligible, the imitation leather cover is decent in quality, and the study helps come from a well-known and well-loved Catholic study series. Here is a photo of the beginning of the book of Daniel to illustrate the lack of book introductions: Overall, I would say this edition is passable, but not outstanding. That this ESVCE costs $50 is insane. There are no explanatory notes and no book introductions of any kind. For original video content, see my YouTube Channel After international shipping costs, this costed me over US $60 which is over NZD $100…. If an accurate translation makes things difficult for Catholics (or anyone else), then too bad! Below I will go into more detail about the translation as well as the physical Bible itself. Customer Reviews The Augustine Bible features a beautiful foil-stamped slipcase and a durable matte cover to ensure that you can use and treasure this Bible for years to come. Hello Select your address We have generous margins. The books of the Old Testament are laid out in the traditional Catholic order, with the books of Maccabees arranged after the other historical books and before the book of Job. Ironically the ESV uses some older readings that are more accurate than the RSV. Well… I just checked the Catholic.store shop and the price has dropped by 40% to $29.95. 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