The Romulans believe that Soji Asha, daughter of Data, is that Destroyer. Spoilers and spoilers everywhere. There are a few possible ways this could have played out. Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Unimatrix Q, Mar 12, 2020. Active (2399), The Zhat Vash was an ancient and secret Romulan cabal of Tal Shiar operatives. We’ve seen that there are Tal Shiar and Zhat Vash who have been secretly embedded in the Federation for many years, with Commodore Oh having reached the rank of Federation Security Chief. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. Though Romulans and Vulcans share common biological origins, as far as I know, only Vulcans are able to initiate mind melds. Zhat Vash – The Romulan Secret Service Secret Keeping Service. In “Maps and Legends,” Laris says the Zhat Vash has kept their secret of hating A.I. 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Zhat Vash – The Romulan Secret Service Secret Keeping Service. The Commodore and her top agent Lieutenant Rizzo (Peyton List) appear to be the spearhead of a sinister conspiracy to hunt down Data's synthetic "daughters" built by Dr. Bruce Maddox . Zhat Vash The Nameless Ones might have once been Romulans themselves. Little does Picard know that the Zhat Vash have been secretly weaponized by the head of Starfleet Security, a Vulcan named Commodore Oh (Tamlyn Tomita). The scientist refers to the organic remains of the Borg the “Nameless Ones,” which seems conspicuous for a people that keep secrets. Subsequent generations of Zhat Vash would also submit themselves to Admonition, so as to strengthen themselves for their task. According to Laris, the Zhat Vash are an ancient secret cabal that have existed for thousands and thousands of years. We know that Laris and Zhaban are former Tal Shiar, just as Narek and Narissa “publicly” pose as Tal Shiar while secretly also being Zhat Vash. However Laris and Zhaban are quick to point out that Romulans are synonymous with secrets, it’s in the fiber of their being. However, they did not work alone, and they had help from inside of Starfleet to achieve their goals. Neither is the introduction of the Zhat Vash and the looming secret which could “break a person’s mind.” While it’s true we are given no concrete answers, the Romulans may have revealed themselves both through action and omission. Chief among them is a deep-seated hatred of synthetic lifeforms that apparently influences every aspect of Romulan life down to the way they code their technology. Check him out on twitter: @TheAmazingAri. 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We learned about not one, but two secret Romulan sects — the underhanded robot-hating Zhat Vash, and their must nicer, nobler enemies, the warrior nuns of the Qowat Milat. KEEP READING: Star Trek: Picard's Anger at Starfleet Means More Than You Think, Ari David is pretty amazing. We can surmise that this secret has to do with the mythological figure of Seb-Cheneb, the "Destroyer" who figures in a Romulan story about an … But if the Borg and Romulans are as intertwined as we are being led to believe, Star Trek fans should brace themselves for a massive shift in the franchise’s lore. In the second episode of Star Trek: Picard we learn of a Romulan conspiracy to hide a dark secret, but we may already know what this secret is. After experiencing the memories of the utter devastation wrought by the synthetic "Destroyer", called Seb-Cheneb, contained within the Admonition, they dedicated themselves to eliminating synthetics so as to prevent another such event. Enterprise is Great Vice Admiral Admiral. New episodes of the series premiere every Thursday on CBS All Access. The Zhat Vash was founded, and have been fighting a secret war with these ancient androids all this time. https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-picard-section-31-working-romulans Picard’s Romulan workers Laris and Zhaban tell him of the secret Romulan force, the Zhat Vash. Since Romulan society itself is only thousands of years old, it wouldn't be illogical to think that they might date back to the time of the Romulan/Vulcan schism. . Well, if they hate artificial intelligence, that could be why. If Jurati is a secret Synth, ... We already know that the Zhat Vash (the group controlling the Tal Shiar) hates A.I., but we don't know why. Ancient Conspiracy: The Zhat Vash is a secret society within the Secret Police that is the Tal Shiar, having been engaged in covert operations inside and outside the Romulan Star Empire for literally thousands of years. It also introduced a new threat in the form of the Zhat Vash, a secret organization behind the already secret Tal Shiar. The Zhat Vash expressly hates androids and are likely the culprits for Dahj’s murder. On the surface, the exchange highlights Soji’s empathetic nature in contrast to her callous Romulan boss. Part of this is tied up in a … This why Laris is such a good detective in "Maps and Legends," and why she knows about the rumors of the Zhat Vash. Picard revealed that both of these groups of Romulans have existed for thousands of years, and up until this series, the Zhat Vash toiled totally in secret. Spock played a crucial role in rescuing a Star Trek: The Next Generation crewmember from the Romulans. A one-stop shop for all things video games. Star Trek: Picard introduces another organization to the Romulan intelligence apparatus, called the Zhat Vash. Star Trek: Picard - What Is the Romulans' Dark Secret? This Star Trek: Picard article contains spoilers through Episode 3. They are driven by a deep loathing of artificial life and their sole purpose is to ensure synthetics are neutralised. It was that event that the Federation came to believe that the Zhat Vash were likely behind the Attack on Mars and lifted the ban on creation of artificial lifeforms. It’s clear that the cabal is willing to go to incredible lengths to achieve their goals. However, episode 8 has brought in memories alive. A lot of us who are analyzing Picard are trying to figure out what the great and terrible secret could be that the Zhat Vash are keeping. Since their introduction into Star Trek, the Borg have been a plague, easily seen by all sentient races as the greatest threat to their continued existence. The scene where Soji assists a Romulan scientist harvest Borg cybernetics takes on a new context with the Zhat Vash’s zeal against synthetics in mind. The Zhat Vash are probably also a lie concealing a secret cabal of ancient robot elders fearing obsolescence in the face of increasingly advanced Soong-type androids. so much are yet to be revealed. The group is so feared for its willingness to kill that Zhat Vash is another term for the dead, the “only reliable keepers of secrets” from a Romulan’s perspective. Subsequent g… One faction embraced cybernetics and synthetic life, and the other opposed it. By examining the sparse information at hand, there are enough threads we can connect to reveal a possible motive that might be as devastating as the Zhat Vash fear. In 2399, former operative Laris related the rumors about the Zhat Vash to retired Admiral Jean-Luc Picard; they came to believe that the Zhat Vash were likely behind the attacks on Dahj Asha on Earth. It also introduced a new threat in the form of the Zhat Vash, a secret organization behind the already secret Tal Shiar. They orchestrated the Mars incident to foment a fear and hatred of synthetics which would further their agenda. Many spoilers seem to be doing the rounds that relate to episode 8 of Star Trek: Picard. Members: In “Maps and Legends,” Laris says the Zhat Vash has kept their secret of hating A.I. The Zhat Vash Secret We kind of, sort of got a look at the overarching secret the Zhat Vash have been guarding for centuries--the one that's worth killing in order to keep. Status: Laris and Zhaban explain to Picard that there exists a secret group even more secret than the infamous Tal Shiar (various episodes), which is saying a lot. We also learn of a conspiracy within Romulan society so secretive that most Romulans are completely ignorant or dismissive of its existence. Since Romulan society itself is only thousands of years old, it wouldn't be illogical to think that they might date back to the time of the Romulan/Vulcan schism. This ultimate test of Zhat Vash agents has them go through a process known as "The Admonition" the sharing of a secret warning from an alien race … The Zhat Vash is a secret cabal known to only a few by rumor and hushed whispers, and it has been around for thousands of years. It seems the Zhat Vash think there are more androids like Dahj and Soji and are hoping to learn their location–likely to kill them all. During that battle, Narissa was killed in combat with Seven of Nine on the Artifact. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Zhat_Vash?oldid=2654879. Since their introduction into Star Trek, the Borg have been a plague, easily seen by all sentient races as the greatest threat to their continued existence. The Zhat Vash have gone out of their way to infiltrate the Federation, compromising Starfleet at its highest levels. Or is it some other possibility — a secret that connects to what the Zhat Vash fight against — some sort of prophecy connected to Ramdha? Or a similar idea: the secret knowledge that assimilation is inevitable. Life like synths like Soji seem to be where the line in drawn. In “Maps and Legends,” the second episode of Star Trek: Picard, the Romulans have several aspects of their society retconned that could have major ramifications for Star Trek going forward. It seems that their main purpose was to keep a secret. They are desperate to root out and destroy synthetic life, with Dahj’s murder revealed to be a back-up plan. Only a rumour even to Romulans, Laris is convinced they must be behind the attack. It seems that their main purpose was to keep a secret. The Zhat Vash wanted to track her, hoping she would lead them to a “nest.” That is exactly why Narek, an agent for the Zhat Vash, has seduced Soji. And then there's the Zhat Vash, an even more secret branch of the secretive Romulan Tal Shiar. In the 2380s, General Oh guided a group of Tal Shiar operatives, including Ramdha and … The Zhat Vash is a secret cabal known to only a few by rumor and hushed whispers, and it has been around for thousands of years. According to Laris, the Zhat Vash are an ancient secret cabal that have existed for thousands and thousands of years. https://decider.com/2020/01/30/star-trek-picard-episode-2-borg-cube-romulans The second episode of Star Trek: Picard introduces the Zhat Vash, an ancient Romulan conspiracy dedicated to seeking out and destroying artificial life. Oh is Zhat Vash and has probably access even to secret information in Starfleet and for sure pulled important stuff about all (partially) artificial life. Colour-Coded for Your Convenience : When Seven takes control of the Artifact, her eyes turn black and green, the Borg's team colors. The Zhat Vash was the name of a secretive Romulan cabal that was introduced in the Star Trek: Picard pilot Remembrance. The “Zhat Vash” are so secret that even the Tal Shiar consider them to be a myth and the meaning of the name is a Romulan term referring to the dead, “the only reliable keepers of secrets,” but as we find out this week they are very real, and apparently driven by a fanatical hatred of all synthetic life forms and artificial intelligence, explaining why Romulan technological development is so inconsistent in terms of … A major mystery in Star Trek: Picard involves the Zhat Vash and their dark secret about the future that’s caused them to hate synths. The story comes from the new Star Trek: Picard prequel novel The Dark Veil by James Swallow, which follows Will Riker and Deanna Troi during their time on the USS Titan in between the events of Star Trek: Nemesis and Star Trek: Picard‘s first season. Was Kataan another victim of the secret of the Zhat Vash? Star Trek: Picard stars Patrick Stewart, Alison Pill, Michelle Hurd, Evan Evagora, Isa Briones, Santiago Cabrera, and Harry Treadaway. Unfortunately, centuries ago, the Admonition was discovered by Romulan explorers. In fact, they mock the Federation for referring to the Tal Shiar as the Romulan secret police, calling the distinction “redundant.”. These theories would explain both the Zhat Vashs’ actions and the sense of propriety the Romulans seem to have over Borg tech. They are driven by a deep loathing of artificial life and their sole purpose is to ensure synthetics are neutralised. Zhat vash was also a term sometimes used to refer to the dead, the "only reliable keepers of secrets". While quick to show them disdain, the Romulans are also eager to scavenge all they can from the Borg cube. As the episode progresses it’s made clear that the Zhat Vash are very real, but we aren’t given any sort of answer since they are mostly regarded as boogeymen. It could be even more personal than that. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Laris also tells Picard that this clandestine organisation has a secret 'so profound it could break minds'. Ancient Conspiracy: The Zhat Vash is a secret society within the Secret Police that is the Tal Shiar, having been engaged in covert operations inside and outside the Romulan Star Empire for literally thousands of years. They certainly weren’t a particularly nice bunch and Laris certainly wasn’t a fan. First, they’re guarding a secret so important and profound that they will kill anyone to keep it. This cabal, known as the Zhat Vash, is a group dedicated to keeping a secret shame in the Romulans’ past. According to Laris, it was thousands upon thousands of years old, and it supposedly predated the Tal Shiar, which she said functioned merely as a mask for the Zhat Vash. Dahj and Soji are the first organic synthetics to have been made since then by … They are believed to have been behind the attack on the Mars shipyard that led to Jean-Luc’s resignation and the ban of artificial life within the Federation. (PIC: "Maps and Legends"), Allegedly, the Zhat Vash operated without regard for treaty or jurisdiction, not just on Romulan worlds, but also in the Klingon Empire, the Gorn Hegemony, and even the United Federation of Planets. Laris does give some information about the Zhat Vash, though. Their creations could have grown beyond their control and as a result, the Romulans swept the Borg under the rug, banning artificial life. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. If the Romulans had some part in the birth of the Borg, that revelation would be an embarrassment that shakes Romulan civilization to its core. So, what is this secret? "Zhat Vash" is a Romulan term referring to the dead, "the only reliable keepers of secrets," and even the Tal Shiar generally consider them to be a myth. The pair (Zhaban much more skeptically) describes that this group has operatives deep undercover around the federation. The group is so feared for its willingness to kill that Zhat Vash is another term for the dead, the “only reliable keepers of secrets” from a Romulan’s perspective. There's also a prophecy about a Destroyer that will bring about the Day of Annihilation, ending all life. (PIC: "Maps and Legends"), Its sole purpose was claimed to be to keep a secret so profound and terrible that just learning it could break a person's mind. There are still too many missing pieces to form a solution to the puzzle Picard is presenting. The secret the Zhat Vash kill to protect could be that the Romulans are responsible for the creation of the Borg. Click the button below to start this article in quick view. Laris deduces this cover-up could only be the work of the Zhat Vash, a cabal of deep-state “boogeyman” that reside within the Romulans’ Tal Shiar secret police. The show has made the role of artificial life a central theme, so the Romulans’ hatred of synthetics is no coincidence. It also introduced a new threat in the form of the Zhat Vash, a secret organization behind the already secret Tal Shiar. Even if they had AI I don’t think it reaches the threshold that triggers extinction. They operate without regard for treaty or jurisdiction, doing whatever they deem necessary to ensure their secret remains safe. It also introduced a new threat in the form of the Zhat Vash, a secret organization behind the already secret Tal Shiar. Also, the fact that Commodore Oh is able to mind meld is an intriguing bit of information in and of itself. Laris and Zhaban explain to Picard that there exists a secret group even more secret than the infamous Tal Shiar (various episodes), which is saying a lot. 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