The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. @userthatisme: youtube is a funny place for debating, I like seeing what people say to me. The overvoid is a canvas of all DC creations. But, I will vote for Tema2. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Discussions Monitor-Mind the Overvoid is the void of absolute nothingness that encompasses creation, standing outside of its deepest reaches, beyond all dual concepts and the stories which form around them, being the crumbling point in which all things cease to be, and the background of all stories and ideas within DC Comics itself. From the verse he is considered the god above all others. Wikis. If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, also known as The Void, The Overmonitor and The Primal Monitor, is the ultimate source of all creation of the DC Comics Franchise. Don’t do it. It's a conscious unmanifest void. The same goes with The Writer. Lucifer may have escaped creation itself and gone somewhere in the Overvoid, but note that The Overvoid and The Presence are actually related and are the same. They are the unseen "presence" with ultimate power over every story, bound behind their source wall (the fourth wall). The Writer and The Presence are practically the same. Posted by 1 month ago. Many claim poplular lore is that its the Presence. The Overvoid is an aspect of The Presence. The Presence/The Source is God (in universe), all powerful and controls everything. Prayala is God's Unconsciousness and When she says absorb she literally says shes just the deep sleep which even god falls into. People are just tending to make him look like a fodder which he isn't and I get it that overvoid is stronger than the presence but the presence isn't stronger than Toaa so imo Toaa wins against overvoid too. Also an aspect of the Overvoid called Pralaya has a sole purpose of bringing all things back to nothingness. Still below that of the Dc writer. Funny we ignore that, but use his much needed number to justify High-1B for our DC profiles. hide. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it.The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. But The writer acting through the Presence is what it is. Meaning even The Presence will just return to the nothingness of the Overvoid. Also if you had any analytical skills, you would know that I was just trolling and mocking xearfesay and Mj. I saw that when I searched them up. It certainly looks like they are above them. Soloed by batman ? Gan (Dark Tower) vs Overvoid (DC Comics) Battle. I only see you wanking marvel and you never show feats for dc ever(or statements). The "Overmonitor" is not a name for the Overvoid. Do you even know what you are saying? Also an aspect of the Overvoid called Pralaya has a sole purpose of bringing all things back to nothingness. The Presence is a powerful being originating from the DC universe. While Yahweh / Carey's Presence is the conscious, manifested, physical aspect of God within its own Dream. | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom FANDOM. I should know because vlad from accounting Is omnipotent. In Morrrisons cosmology Tier: High 1-A, likely 0. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. As a result, even beings such as The Presence, The Source and Monitor-Mind The Overvoid are aspects of it. It's a conscious unmanifest void. Monitors and the like are a cool concept for the purpose they serve. Aren't they pretty much the same being? Loading editor. I don’t see any tbh but give a good list of the ones you think can or you think are capable of. @userthatisme: in my opinion theyre worse and that's saying something cause I'll admit thanos is wanked they actually believe monitors solo everything absolutely everything. But nice reply to him, you really showed him, @userthatisme: alonis hates monitors or there fans he is poking fun, I didt read it I only read him saying Overvoid soloing presence. The Scan above just shows Eonymous to basically interpret us and yes he is above the Overvoid. This is either a micheal Julius alt or my favourite troll. The Primal Monitor is what creation exists within. The overvoid is the paper and the prescense is the writer. Nobody is big brain without saying a trash character is omnipotent like Zeno. While The presence is the hand and the pen. The One-Above-All vs Over Monitor # Over Monitor over monitor wins because the presence said that someone created him. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. @userthatisme: ah gotcha on the zeno thing. Nothing like this has ever been stated in DC. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. zopzop. Also zeno is not omnipotent by any means I doubt he could handle any of marvel or dcs God tiers. Next Last. The presence more or less is the version he appears to human, good example being Yahweh. If a writer has an idea for any creative stories they come up with, it is done through the Presence. The Oversoul id the Presence at his highest. report. Tier: High 1-A. Lucifer and Michael are second to The Presence. Sounds false. >Glad we agree that Overvoid is the comic page and Lucifer and The Presence are creations of Nix Uotan, who is the Authors avatar. ill stop sending this stuff now I just wanna know why do YouTube commenters claim this stuff? Some said The Presence written by Neil Gaiman is supreme GOD of DC universe. People genuinely think thanos with ig is ”omnipotent” and the fact they don’t know anything or just ignore feats for dc characters claiming a weak feat can beat x from dc from y of marvel. The Presence is one of the supreme and essential creative forces of the DC Multiverse. I'm not sure I'm reading it correctly or you writing wrong darkest knight made sphere of gods shudder with his might,sphere of gods contains heaven,hell,skyland,apokalips new genesis etc Pralaya is the Overvoid, according to you, and is named synonymously with the Source, who is a like being to the Presence, and is also called an aspect of the Presence by the author. ignore omnipotent statements and ignore writer interpretations as so many verses would stalemate doing so. Overvoid is merely a concept where the presence created everything and didn't interfere. @userthatisme: The entire "paper" is on the desk of some random kid. The Overvoid Lurk is a narrative entity appearing both as and within a text. How am I wanking dc? The Presence is everywhere but also nowhere at once so no matter how many times Lucifer tries to escape The Presence, just realize The Presence is God and is omnipresent which means he is everywhere, everything, and nowhere at once. 10 months ago. I said larfleeze can beat hotu thanos lol, @userthatisme: overvoid>>>>>>>mandrakk and cas >>>>>>>toaa/Presence< fiction. T2 easily. And these are unquestionably the 3 most powerful entities (based on presentation) that DC ever published. Both have different interpretation about DC comics. 01:28, February 19, 2019. Tyrannus 5 mo 3 d . More History; Done. XSUPREMEXSKILLZ. @userthatisme: unfortunately not he is no troll he is dead serious in his beliefs same with the rest of the monitor fan base. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. I was joking about Zeno omnipotent thing. Meaning even The Presence will just return to the nothingness of the Overvoid. I think scp 3812 only loses to maybe lucifer but definitely the Presence, @userthatisme: given some time I'm sure I could give you a list that I think could potentially do the task. Above both is the race called the Eonymous. Unless I'm mistaken, didn't Mandrakk or the Overvoid view DC reality as a microbe in comparison to it? The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. Pralaya is not an aspect of the Overvoid. Not sure if the storyline is canon but i didnt see anthing saying it was not. She is the aspect of the non existence of the presence or his Unconsciousness taken form. The point of battles is to have discussion, and you can’t have a discussion with infinitely powerful characters. If you want to be anonymous, don't enter your real name when you donate. would you be able to list some characters able to solo DC? @userthatisme: ah gotcha on the zeno thing. The Presence, The Overvoid, and The Writer No, not asking for a Rumbles between these 3 entities. Powers and Stats. time and time again I see better feats. Overvoid 10/10 this fodder and his fodder verse. The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. I believe there are rules against making straight-up omnipotence vs omnipotence rumbles, yes? I know this battle has been done before plenty of times, but whait I want to know is how can the OV be stronger than the Presence when it didn't even xearesay. share. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. The fact that you can't see that speaks to your own ignorance and closemindedness. Basically my interpretation is that. The Presence and The Overmonitor might be the same as well. Name: God, The One Above All, The Creator, The Oversoul, The Void Beyond All Voids, The Source, The Overvoid, Monitor-Mind, The Presence, among many others Origin: DC Comics. Honestly though if you can’t give a list, it’s fine but I also wanna take that as a “DC is the most powerful verse in fiction” type thing. Which is true as dematties thinks creation to be a dream and when god isn't dreaming that's pralaya. Entitäten wie The Voice und The Source sind nur Aspekte von The Presence. AnwaysOT: Epic, I just learnt of new characters. The Presence vs Over Monitor # The Presence I wanted to know your opinion on this. I see.. but you failed, CAS was already infinitely faster than you before you were even born. They are outsiders watching reality for entertainment which is the only reason they dont destroy it entirely iirc. vs Overvoid Cosmic Armor Superman Mandrakk Who wins? In Neil Gaimans cosmology. He rarely helps the heroes or interferes with anything, except he brought back the Earth once when it was destroyed. They're an infinite white canvas (which is the blank page of a comic book) the collective DC "story" (aka the omniverse and all DC properties together) is an ink splotch on said canvas. At the end of the issue, it was revealed that Overvoid was also the narrator of Wanderlust, having gained sentience through its own presence within the text. 1. Nur der Monitor-Geist und Overvoid überschreiten die Präsenz in ihren Existenzebenen. Darkseid is by far the weakest of the four. Kid spilling milk on it warps reality. Sorry for the confusion. CAS CANT BE FASTER THAN THE FASTEST MA ALIVE!! Now if we are to take the Overvoid seriously, I'd say he's the paper to be drawn on if anything. It's a conscious unmanifest void. The character debuted in More Fun Comics #52 (February 1940), and was created by Jerry Siegel and Bernard Baily Publication history. 11 comments. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Aren’t they the readers? Name: The Presence, the Source (In another belief system), Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, God Origin: DC Comics. Also with the multiverse, if you like can you put the most powerful you have researched? Example: The Presence, the One Above All. Mandrakk Presence isnt even in top 5 charecters like writer,leviathan,utu,enlil,gilgamesh,overvoid exists,you watch to much youtube or something like that. DeMattes' Presence / Kirby's Source / Morrison's Overvoid are more or less the same thing. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. Wait I just noticed you aren’t saying anything true just jokes, sorry. Also marvel is more wanked compared to DC wank(normally superman or darksied). It is the blank page a writer use to create miracles. @xearesay prove you don’t troll. NOOOOO! And it's mentioned that even God will return to the sleep of brahma. Wouldn’t that be an aspect of the Overvoid/paper? The religious cosmology of the multiverse is complex, with many pantheons of gods co-existing alongside each other. Presence is arguably at best equal to the Overvoid and arguably below it. Why/How would they fight. @y3kthunder: Matteis said on twitter that this was personal view and therefore should have nothing to do with the comic. God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles. Over Monitor Over monitor IS the overvoid, and the writers also established that the presence should be above the overvoid/void, tho he exists within the overvoid, he shouldn't be limited to it @tyr why ping me. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. Please click here if you are willing to help out. Or it … But that's the thing I'm not certain who could be considered the strongest verse in fiction, I'm unsure if there is a verse that could actually solo any other which is y I'd have to think hard on that and do some serious research and even then my answer my not satisfy. But due to it being marvel, nobody cares. Thread starter Hykuu; Start date Nov 8, 2019; Tags dc comics monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the source Status Not open for further replies. It includes elements from multiple religions, mythologies, and modern concepts such as the Endless. Bruh xea no offense but uh you do realize by saying pralaya is an aspect of the overvoid that you admit the overvoid is apart of the presence when asked matteis was very clear pralaya was apart of the presence and considering he made her I'ma take his word face palm, He’s a troll isn’t he? Close. Powers and Stats. Overvoid initially appeared as a copy of Intergalactic#8 within Intergalactic#8, discovered by the character Ignoble Steed. Go. Overvoid > The Presence. Based on that, I have to assume that the Beyonder and One Above All wins. The-One-Above-All is a character from Marvel Comics and the God of that universe. It is not always clear how the Abrahamic God fits in to this scheme - for exampl… If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. The Presence is a fictional character in comic books published by DC Comics. @userthatisme: You are wanking DC, I am not wanking Marvel. You guys need to stop taking a writers personal opinion to the highest degree. Follow 1820. Is the dc writer really apart of the presence? So is The Source, The Oversoul, etc. @xearesay: bruh matteis wrote that story pralaya is his character when asked he stayed she was apart of the presence he has written multiple story's about the presence and has always viewed him at the top again face palm his opinion matters right there, @y3kthunder: U mad Overvoid solos the Presence Overvoid was terrified of CAS who is the strongest character in all of fiction CAS can pull you into the comic book and beat you up so stop wanking. Matteis said on twitter that this was personal view and therefore should have nothing to do with the comic. So,it is very difficult to compare. Even without the statement, the verses essentially can be stalemated like DC and SCP can stalemate completely. It has never been suggested that the Overvoid is superior to anything on it. Either way, The Presence is omnipotent and his true form is completely identical to the Overvoid, so The Presence wins this one since he is THE god. You guys need to stop taking a writers personal opinion to the highest degree. Who wins? It's a conscious unmanifest void. 40018621 7 mo 10 d . The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. 40. You kinda dumb ngl. Only Speedy Gonzales can outrun me, THE FLASH. Others said Overvoid written by Grant Morrison is supreme. And yet you constantly do this with Morrison's personal opinions. So The Presence, The Source, The Overmonitor/Overvoid are all the same being (supposedly). It is the canvas on which all creation then exists in. Games Movies TV Video. The Writer (self-insert of Grant Morrison) is the "supreme being" that writes and governs the whole thing. Your assumptions are not evidence. Lol. monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the writer tiering system Replies: 362; Forum: Content Revision; Tier upgrade for The eonymous. save. If you want to be anonymous, don't enter your real name when you donate. 1; 2; Next. Always felt like the presence was the writer himself manifesting into a character in DC. Save changes Preview Cancel. 2,441 447. In the history of the DC Universe, the Presence is the fictionalized counterpart to the Godof the Abrahamic (but mostly Christian) religions. To add to this I have an actual last image. But in the real world, it is the comic book writer. That's how I have always seen it. Please click here if you are willing to help out. Which is to monitor the universes. Jetzt ist Cosmic Armor Superman im Grunde genommen von seiner besten Seite ein Oversversal (oder eine niedrigere Metaverse-Ebene), das für sich allein ist. Prescense creates multiverses on it. Trying to become the fastest man alive.. CatL18 . Explore Wikis ... the Void was just part of the Presence? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. But that's the thing I'm not certain who could be considered the strongest verse in fiction, I'm unsure if there is a verse that could actually solo any other which is y I'd have to think hard on that and do some serious research and even then my answer my not satisfy, Honestly with the omnipotent statements, then verses would stalemate. 67% Upvoted. I have just learned now that the Presence isn’t truly omnipotent, although still far above Beyonder and Darkseid. But I vaguely remember the Presence that he was shaped by external forces. Definitely not a vs topic. Because if so, this is taking "stop hitting yourself" to a whole new level. @userthatisme: A random Eonymous has overvoid on his desk and its threated like worthless trash. I wasted my time with a vs battle fan calc guy. My question is simple: do any of these 3 have any usable on-panel Rumble feats at all? Gan (Dark Tower) vs Overvoid (DC Comics) Battle. 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